tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post3821367510067484358..comments2023-09-06T11:28:01.234-04:00Comments on The Table of Promise: One Family's Search for a Better Meal: The Stigma of Being FatCOBhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08917301601937658471noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-17149168109029254412011-07-03T23:36:39.996-04:002011-07-03T23:36:39.996-04:00What NAAFA believes is that there shouldn't be...What NAAFA believes is that there shouldn't be fat stigma, and that fat people should be able to live without being judged. They belive obesity is a term used to medicalize a natural diversity in human bodies. <br /><br />So perhaps you misunderstood, when they say fight obesity they don't mean to try making fat people thin, they mean to fight the message that says the concept obesity should exsist in the first place. <br /><br />You CAN be healthy and fat, attempts to make fat people thin, only cause fat people ill. What matters is eating healthy REGARDLESS of body size.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-872529741141134772011-06-11T18:34:09.204-04:002011-06-11T18:34:09.204-04:00I've been digging through files looking for an...I've been digging through files looking for an article that I read recently but can't find it now. Mark Bittman wrote about the "deconstructing of food". In his article, he showed that once we stopped eating food and began eating "low-fat", "high-fiber" engineered ingredients, obesity took off. I don't know if that is the case or not but I'm willing to buy it for now. I think it is very much in line with what Linda is saying above.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-91090834825671544982011-06-11T15:31:34.535-04:002011-06-11T15:31:34.535-04:00Thank you so much for this post. I can't help ...Thank you so much for this post. I can't help but think that the creation of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance is along the same lines as our society's creation of special college's for minorities, beauty pageants for minorities, dodge ball without the ball in many elementary schools...and the list goes on and on. We're not solving the problem of racism by further separating into different colleges, we're not teaching our children how to cope in the world where sometimes you win and other times you don't by taking away the ball, and we sure as heck aren't creating healthy future generations by ignoring and "accepting" obesity. I wish our society had the nerve to take an honest look at reality, dig to the source, and truly help. Right now we're experts at applying band-aids- it may hurt to tear off the band-aid and look at the wound, but it's better off in the long run.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-19114231976386848062011-06-10T22:59:36.658-04:002011-06-10T22:59:36.658-04:00Thanks for sharing your perspective. I'm so so...Thanks for sharing your perspective. I'm so sorry you went through that.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10605202466534621868noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-62207059026201252202011-06-10T13:40:43.732-04:002011-06-10T13:40:43.732-04:00I was going to ask if you have read the Gary Taube...I was going to ask if you have read the Gary Taubes book, Why We Get Fat. I am half way through so I can't fully comment on it yet. However, early on in the book he points out that in the 1930s research had begun on obesity in America. It surprised me given how much our food system and way of life has changed since then.<br /><br />Personally, I think most people have been incorrectly educated in regards to food and do not understand what will really make them fat/keep them thin. I had someone argue with me that diet coke is ok to drink because it has nothing in it, and then in the same day refuse to eat a carrot because of the amount of carbs it contained....carbs in a carrot!?! They refused to see that benefits of the carrot, only the "evil" carb. And they refused to recognize that whatever is in a diet coke that allows it to be no calories could possibly be evil.<br /><br />-Linda EAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-23085805074157023862011-06-10T11:38:52.018-04:002011-06-10T11:38:52.018-04:00COB, you struck a cord with me! Hehe, are this man...COB, you struck a cord with me! Hehe, are this many words still considered a "comment?"<br /><br />Obese children are by far the biggest tragedy of the "obesity epidemic." It's one thing for a 50 year old to pay little mind to his diet and become obese. But obese kids never really get a chance. And as a kid who was one of the "bigger kids than you" in your story, I understand the misery of childhood obesity.<br /><br />If we can make a dramatic enough shift in our food culture, than we will likely return to our previous obesity rates. But I'm confident that this won't help the currently obese children as much as we hope it will. We view obesity as just the far side of a continuum from lean to obese, and so the obese just need to eat more like the lean. But all of these obese kids, and especially the obese kids who were born to overweight mothers, are ever more susceptible to gaining and keeping their body fat. We can't just hope that they'll "eat like the lean kids do, or just eat what the lean ones do." We need to treat it as a disorder, and rather than simply offering a prudent diet, we need to encourage a more prescriptive diet.<br /><br />I'm not sure if you've read it yet, but I hope you will read Gary Taubes's new book. Then you'll understand what I mean. We really need to get these kids off of the soda, fruit juice, snack foods, desserts, and maybe even some bread and pasta. Even the cupcakes and cookies that their mothers or grandmothers make them. Of course these kids can have some, and lean kids will be fine with even more, but probably not to the degree to which we consider "moderation." After all, we don't apply the same degree of moderation to a childhood diabetic as we do a non-diabetic child. Why should we do the same with obese children? They both have metabolic disorders, one auto-immune driven and the other diet driven.<br /><br />There was study a few years ago showing that obese children have a comparable quality of life to children with cancer (http://www.forces.org/articles/files/obese_children_rate.htm). The simplest thing to take from it is that no child is okay with being overweight. And from personal experience, it is absolutely miserable. All I would have likely had to do to avoid it was eliminate soda, snacks, and dessert - the refined carbs and sugar. Although I'm aware that, as I child, I would have protested. While it seems wrong to some (usually the always lean) to deny children the joys of candy and dessert, I would have gladly taken that over obesity. We just need to understand that these foods literally make us, and our kids, fat.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652125062671130199noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2787698713835410146.post-70818257095026910732011-06-10T11:37:43.890-04:002011-06-10T11:37:43.890-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05652125062671130199noreply@blogger.com